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Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:12 pm
by retrovan
Looks good ... but how are you going to attach the pans to the frame ??
Or are you just going to clamp the pan between the body and the Frame ?
Herman
Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:38 am
by keithm18@gmail.com
So the seats and peddle assembly bolt through the floor pan into the pieces I wielded in. And then my plan is that there will be a few small nuts and bolts to hold the middle areas and sides.
I am going to be putting the bed liner on the top of the frame now as well, excluding the tunnel as a type of cushion for the aluminum pans...
I hope that will work...
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Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:35 pm
by keithm18@gmail.com
Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm
by retrovan
The problem starts at the raw metal.
As most steel and sheets now come from Chine, where they treat the shipment with an mixture of all kinds of 2nd hand oils,
this is done for the long sea trip so it will not rust by the time you buy it.
Now to paint any of this stuff, you need to get rid of this goo before you paint.
That is why most metal workers grid blast everything before painting, or you need to have a excellent de-greaser.
Next you need some kind of paint that will bite into the metal, so we use a 2K etch primer, this will give you the firm base to work from.
As this primer is so good you can have it un-painted for approx. 6 months before you have an issue with rust forming under it.
Now after that you can give it a top coat or you need only put a clear coat on to form a air thighs coating to stop rust forming.
Then you apply your stone chip.
Hope this helps
Herman
Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:36 pm
by keithm18@gmail.com
Thanks Herman that helps a lot
The bare metal was a mix of the new steel, but where it's chipping off is on the old frame horns where it went to bare metal during the cleaning process.
Will get my hands on some etch primer and go from there.
Looks like it's time to strip it down again..
Need to make myself a proper frame stand too...
What type of paint should is be using on the gear box?
Thanks again.
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Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:19 pm
by retrovan
Thats the same thing ,
the old parts are full of old grease, and sand paper will clean the metal but rub the grease into the steel.
These steels parts need to be de-greased very well to make paint stick.
If you have used a paint stripper, you need to neutralise the stripper 1st before de-greasing, and painting
Something like an ind. alcohol or strong de-greaser soap and then wiped with meth's. before painting.
I would just clean the gearbox and not paint it as it can release heat better if not painted.
If you still want to paint it, use an 2K as well.
Herman
Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:49 pm
by Tony Z
I cant comment about the painting, but I agree with the gearbox - dont paint it as you are adding an insulation layer and keeping the heat in.
Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:06 pm
by keithm18@gmail.com
So I haven't given up yet..having failed at the first paint job, I have decided to do what I should have done in the first place... To sand blast and then paint with 2K....
The frame I am dropping off with a company in Benoni to do, but the smaller parts I want to do and....
To that end I bought a small hand held sand blaster and made a hell of a mess on one small part... So out came the creativity and I now I am building a sand blasting cabinet almost entirely from stuff I have lying around the house, including an old heating oil tank....
Only thing I bought is the glass and the gloves... The rest is being recycled.
I hope to finish it in the next week or so.
What do you guys think?
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Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:35 pm
by 73type2
Looks great, Keith!! Having your own sand blasting setup at home will make parts restoration so much easier. That's another dream of mine, having a BIG compressor and sand blasting cabinet.
Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:37 pm
by keithm18@gmail.com
My compressor is a direct drive 100 litre so I have to be patient... Will be looking for a 200 litre or larger, belt drive to restore in the coming months.
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Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:38 pm
by retrovan
Hey !! that looks great, well done.
Now you have it forever.
only one problem ....
You need a big sand blasting cabinet to sand blast your new small sand blasting cabinet .......
Herman
Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:12 am
by keithm18@gmail.com
I was joking about the same thing, but I am Going to build a booth of sorts over a tarp under my car port... And then go to it...
Just need to get myself a hood because that particulate goes everywhere....
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Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:55 am
by 73type2
What about this offering from Takealot?
Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:03 am
by keithm18@gmail.com
That's the one and it comes with a breather in it too....
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Re: Pan Bent?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:56 pm
by keithm18@gmail.com