Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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Dear Friends,

I would like to present an innovative crank shaft pulley made of cast nylon without groove, which allows a belt change in 5 seconds without tool.

Please provide me with your opinions.

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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

Post by Tony Z »

nice idea... I would just be worried about the lack of torque transmission from the lack of contact area. A flat belt would probably work better, with a matching top pulley. And no, I am not talking about a serpentine belt.
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Tony Z wrote:nice idea... I would just be worried about the lack of torque transmission from the lack of contact area. A flat belt would probably work better, with a matching top pulley. And no, I am not talking about a serpentine belt.
I agree Tony , and changing the top pulley to a "flat" type it would then need some kind of tensioner ,which will turn it into a serpentine kit not ?
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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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splitfan wrote:
Tony Z wrote:nice idea... I would just be worried about the lack of torque transmission from the lack of contact area. A flat belt would probably work better, with a matching top pulley. And no, I am not talking about a serpentine belt.
I agree Tony , and changing the top pulley to a "flat" type it would then need some kind of tensioner ,which will turn it into a serpentine kit not ?
Many thanks for your comments.

For understanding the system you have to deal with the physical law of the belt friction: with similar friction coefficients at both pulleys the greater pulley will see no sliding. Therefore you actually do not need a groove at the greater pulley. When producing v-belt pulley systems until now it was normal to take grooved pulleys.

You need a certain energy for bringing the belt out of the groove. This means a belt running on an ungrooved pulley is consuming less energy than a belt running on a grooved pulley.

Overall the system needs less energy, is easier to produce and enables a fast belt change without any tool.

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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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Might work on a stock motor thas sees little acceleration.
A motor with that pulley spining up fast to high RPM....... you will be fitting the belt in 5 seconds a lot more than expected as it will fly off all the time.
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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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Hello calooker,

it is my hobby to convince guys with such an overwhelming self confidence like you have.
We make a deal: I send you a kit for your engine and you test it. If you are right so you can continue with your comments.
If I am right, please tell it to the Beetle Community in South Africa. Please provide me with your address and tell me whether your engine has a DC or an AC Generator.

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I don't even understand the point...
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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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Nor do I. It takes me 5 minutes to fit a belt every 5-4 years... I have four running ACVWs, that's 20 minutes, or 4 minutes per year... I can save 4 seconds per year. How much would that saving cost me?
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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

Post by Madbones »

What about this method :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhfcdQf1QA

No cost just a screw driver :D
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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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At least no tool is needed , How much would it go for? What mods are needed to change the pulleys ?
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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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Hello Jonno,

I sell the kit at my online shop "www.syngear.co.uk/online shop" for 39 Euro + 7,50 Euro for shipping.
The kit includes the cast nylon pulley with a steel flange and two belts.

The idea for this system came per accident when testing the Syngear Steel Belt. A video of this system is presented at [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhL30Z9Fes[youtube].

Many thanks for your interest. Don't hesitate to ask for more details.

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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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LudwigDierl wrote:Hello calooker,

it is my hobby to convince guys with such an overwhelming self confidence like you have.
We make a deal: I send you a kit for your engine and you test it. If you are right so you can continue with your comments.
If I am right, please tell it to the Beetle Community in South Africa. Please provide me with your address and tell me whether your engine has a DC or an AC Generator.

Best wishes

Ludwig Dierl
Hi Ludwig
Willing to take you up on the offer.
I will fit it to my SC bay which is driven like I stole it, with a 1956cc T1 it redlines to 6400 rpm in the blink of an eye, if this system survives the way I drive it then it should survive anywhere.

Let me know.
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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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I like his enthusiasm
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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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Dear Friends,

calooker will get a kit.

It will take some weeks for shipping from Germany to South Africa.

But we will see.

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Re: Belt Change in 5 Seconds without Tool

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Dear Friends,

as calooker is obviously not willing to provide me his address for shipping a disc, I would like to ask anybody else who is seriously interested in testing it.

An email is welcome to "engineering@synchroflat.com".

Best aircooled greetings

Ludwig Dierl
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