Hi Guys,
Does anybody have pictures of the mc pherson suspensioned beetle pan or 411 pan.
Am I right to say you can not unbolt the body from the chassis of either of these cars but it needs to be cut off.
Will such a chassis/pan be strong enough to carry a fibre glass body any kind Im interested in the front suspension part
Yes I know its easier to go the torsion tube but what the hell---maybe?
Cheers
baron .
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Re: Floor pan Pictures
The 411/412 has a monocoque body and chassis construction, and as such the body cannot be seperated from the chassis.
The Mcpherson-strutted 'Super' Beetle (1302/1303) still has a seperate chassis, but the front part is quite different from that of a torsion bar Beetle. Keep in mind that the top part of the coil springs bolt onto the bodyshell, and this might be a bit difficult if the body is fibreglass? I would suggest that one build 'towers' anchored to the chassis to carry the coil spring and strut assembly.
The Mcpherson-strutted 'Super' Beetle (1302/1303) still has a seperate chassis, but the front part is quite different from that of a torsion bar Beetle. Keep in mind that the top part of the coil springs bolt onto the bodyshell, and this might be a bit difficult if the body is fibreglass? I would suggest that one build 'towers' anchored to the chassis to carry the coil spring and strut assembly.
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Re: Floor pan Pictures
This is what a Macpherson-strutted Beetle chassis looks like
The strut mountings
The strut mountings
Re: Floor pan Pictures
Thanks Pine
So this can work if only the shock towers are solid
Next question will be --how to get this through roadworthy ---
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baron
So this can work if only the shock towers are solid
Next question will be --how to get this through roadworthy ---
cheers
baron
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Re: Floor pan Pictures
911 Flat nose replica? Nice!
Dunno if it is standing on a chassis in the pic, but I suspect the previous guy had indeed some 'towers' built, anchored to the chassis, to support the front struts - hence the reason for the large holes?
Dunno if it is standing on a chassis in the pic, but I suspect the previous guy had indeed some 'towers' built, anchored to the chassis, to support the front struts - hence the reason for the large holes?
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Re: Floor pan Pictures
My unprofessional opinion....
ust glancing over that fiberglass pic looks like the strut top mounts are a bit of a hack job. The reason why he might've done it is to profit from the better handling of a McPhereson Strut Beetle. Which makes sense. But on that fiberglass body, it doesnt looks like it was designed to use Struts. So that will mean that you will have an extremely weak point that can break and have TERRIBLE consiquences
Unless of course if you put in a front Käfer Brace, like here(but this one looks still a bit weak to me)...
This one looks a bit sturdier, but needs the triangulation still(obviously you will have to "make" place to attach your triangulation on that fiberglass body)
Hope this helps.
ust glancing over that fiberglass pic looks like the strut top mounts are a bit of a hack job. The reason why he might've done it is to profit from the better handling of a McPhereson Strut Beetle. Which makes sense. But on that fiberglass body, it doesnt looks like it was designed to use Struts. So that will mean that you will have an extremely weak point that can break and have TERRIBLE consiquences
Unless of course if you put in a front Käfer Brace, like here(but this one looks still a bit weak to me)...This one looks a bit sturdier, but needs the triangulation still(obviously you will have to "make" place to attach your triangulation on that fiberglass body)
Hope this helps.
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Re: Floor pan Pictures
Thanks Guys
Ihad something like this in mind --without the engine--
With a bit more triangilation at the back and your red Kafer link Zero.
Dont know if it will look back yard.
This is just a pipe dream and need a lot of research. Why would Ido it ...well just for the hell of it.
btw The frame in picture is for a transverse mounted engine in a Porsche kit car
cheers
baron
Ihad something like this in mind --without the engine--
With a bit more triangilation at the back and your red Kafer link Zero.
Dont know if it will look back yard.
This is just a pipe dream and need a lot of research. Why would Ido it ...well just for the hell of it.
btw The frame in picture is for a transverse mounted engine in a Porsche kit car
cheers
baron