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WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:22 pm
by Hloni
I saw this in central south afrika this week, took some pics and was wondering what this be. if it is anything good, i think i will go see if owner might be willing to get rid of it. like i said, central south afrika, thing is so dry that vader will be seen nowhere near it.
as you will see, it's a rear mount engine. my first thought is citroen looking at the chevrons, however the french use 2 chevrons while this pink baby has 3 of them.
the wheels are 16"
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:24 pm
by Blitzkrieg
Gutbrod was a German car that was assembled near Pretoria in the '50's. I think that it was also aircooled.
I like
EDIT: NOT FRENCH!! GERMAN!
Thanks fig.
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:38 pm
by fig
That is a Gutbrod Atlas. Gutbrod was a German company.
IIRC, some early Gutbrod vans/pick-ups had VW engines driving the front wheels.
They are very rare and seem to be quite desirable among overseas collectors.
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:40 pm
by Hloni
Blitz, you the king!! Gutbrod Atlas is what google tell me this is!
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:42 pm
by Hloni
fig wrote:They are very rare and seem to be quite desirable among overseas collectors.
Here is one for $3 000
http://www.motorbase.com/classifieds/vi ... 927332330;
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:46 pm
by fig
All you need to know about Gutbrod Atlas:
http://www.oldievan.de/html/body_atlas_800_1949.html
With a top speed of 70km/h

even sambabus's Fleetline will be able to keep up.

Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:49 pm
by fig
I just noticed this one is RHD! That makes it even rarer and more desirable.
I've only ever seen one other in SA.
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:50 pm
by Hloni
What engine went into here fig?
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:54 pm
by Hloni
fig wrote:I just noticed this one is RHD! That makes it even rarer and more desirable.
I've only ever seen one other in SA.
I AM GOING TO THE OOM RIGHT NOW TO MAKE HIM A R1K OFFER FOR A "KINDERGARDEN PROJECT FOR THE PREVIOUSLY DISADVANTAGED", THEN PUT AN ADD ON EBAY.CO.UK
I SEE STERLINGS 
I knew that 2010 will b a great year.
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:57 pm
by fig
Re my comments above, it wasn't the Gutbrod that had the ACVW engine, but the early Tempo Matador (a similar commercial vehicle). I've never seen a Gutbrod; it was a Matador I'd previously seen.
According to that brochure it had a two-cylinder 576cc engine.
Probably not as good as a split bus for road trips.
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:57 pm
by Blitzkrieg
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:09 pm
by karmakoma
PS and HP are pretty close, so this two stroke had a whopping 16HP!!
Who was complaining about a 36HP 1200 ACVW engine ??
Looks pretty cool
Go on Hloni, buy it, fix it, EXPORT IT

Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:02 pm
by Donovan D
karmakoma wrote:
Go on Hloni, buy it, fix it, EXPORT IT

x2 well sorta, Id do all that but instead I would not export but keep it, that might just be one of the rarest German cars in SA(correct me if Im wrong, not sure, but Ive never seen one, and dont know too much about old cars in SA)
Ive heard of more Samba's in SA than those vehicles.
It might not be an ACVW but its damn old and German ,
And somewhere in SA the Gutbrod club members of SA are having an argument on their forum about people exporting these just to make money,,,
KEEP IT !!!!!!!!!...my opinion
Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:04 pm
by karmakoma
Sarcasm is sometimes lost on the forum... HLONI, fix and keep, if I wasnt clear

Re: WHAT IS THIS?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:18 pm
by Donovan D
...feeling stupid now!