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Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:18 am
by GLY
Hi there

I need some help, i am currently running a Nissan A15 motor in my beetle, i just want to know if there isnt any gearbox i can run that will work better with the motor, as the perfomance im getting from the motor with my standard box is pathetic?

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:24 am
by Chris
Welcome GLY.

Please do a proper intro in the right thread and tell us a little more about yourself and your car.

Then contact Bugger for advice and mods on your gearbox. :wink:

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:50 am
by GLY
ok kewls..l0l, thanks for heads up, which thread would that be though?

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:04 am
by Chris

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:09 am
by Bugger
GLY wrote:Hi there

I need some help, i am currently running a Nissan A15 motor in my beetle, i just want to know if there isnt any gearbox i can run that will work better with the motor, as the perfomance im getting from the motor with my standard box is pathetic?

Hi
Your budget for a complete motor change is a slight low
But what I can suggest is for around 10K or less you can turbo that Nissan 1500 import motor
And still run it reliable with nice extra power
What area are you from
Do you know of the local http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za forum

Cheers
Pierre



Hi this is the mail I have sent you as a reply on your e-mail you sent me from my web site and I have introduced you to ACVWSA so I am the Samr Bugger :D

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:13 am
by GLY
hi

ok then i think thats the route ill go, im just afraid to spend that money and then because of the gearbox it still pulls like crap..but you say that wont be the case?

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:14 am
by GLY
oh yes im in cape town

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:25 am
by adolfs mate
What a strange request! Never heard this before.

I have an 1500 langley motor in my buggy on a 1600 beetle gearbox. There is no difference to write home about regarding the performance.

In my honest opinion both motors give you the same drive. Although I would like a 5th gear as the rev's are slightly higher now (+/-200rpm higher). But then again I actually prefer this as its easy to tow my fully laden trailor around the country with no hassles.

The only way to go is turbo.

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:33 am
by GLY
ok i dont know but mine is really sluggish, then i guess turbo is what i will do, uhm so do i leave it N/A with turbo or change to efi?

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:59 am
by Tony Z
sorry for being so blunt..... but the reason your setup is sluggish is because you have a crap engine. :mrgreen:
50hp in one engine is the same as 50hp in another. The gearbox doesnt change that.
As for ratio's, the stock beetle box has some of the lowest ratios on the road.

If you made some power available, you wouldnt be complaining about the gearbox. Like bugger said, put a turbo on that thing

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:07 pm
by GLY
ok no sure i understand it is crappy, but yeeah thanx alot for the help, definately going to do the turbo route, hope its nice

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:43 pm
by Tony Z
just teasing you... take it with a pinch of coke....

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:36 pm
by bugspray
Hey Bugger....
what would be the options regarding the gearbox, if say a twincam or 1.4 citi engine was put into a bug? i take it that the golf gearbox wont fit in a bug, so how does one make it work?

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:11 am
by JamesD
Guys seriously, The gearbox in a Lotus Elise has the same 6th gear ratio as a Beetle's 4th gear. I'm sitting at the exact same rpm at 120 in both cars! If you ask me, Both need a longer top gear if anything. And i have the strange feeling that 1st gear in both is almost the same as well. There is nothing wrong with a beetle box (besides it needing a longer 4th).

But ya, Bugspray, I would say get a longer 4th and if funds allow then a longer 3rd as well.

Re: Gearbox for champ motor in beetle

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:25 am
by bugspray
Excellente! so basically engine swap with the std box, but just longer ratios. ok. thats good to know.. thanks. just a curiosity q. im thinking aircooled carbs are evil now. maybe watercooled injections are better.