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Turin shroud - fake, or the real thing?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:40 pm
by Pine
Following a lazy-public-holiday-Monday-afternoon-nothing-better-to-do-than-watching-History-Channel, a quick poll. If you have never heard of this before, please do some research first before casting your vote...

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The Shroud of Turin (or Turin Shroud) is a linen cloth bearing the image of a man presumed to be Jesus Christ who appears to have been physically traumatized in a manner consistent with crucifixion. It is kept in the royal chapel of the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, Italy. It is believed by many to be the cloth placed on the body of Jesus at the time of his burial, while others argue that the artifact may postdate the death of Jesus Christ by more than a millennium.

The image on the shroud is much clearer in black-and-white negative than in its natural sepia color. The striking negative image was first observed on the evening of May 28, 1898, on the reverse photographic plate of amateur photographer Secondo Pia, who was allowed to photograph it while it was being exhibited in the Turin Cathedral. According to Pia, he almost dropped and broke the photographic plate from the shock of seeing an image of a person on it.

The shroud is the subject of intense debate among scientists, people of faith, historians, and writers regarding where, when, and how the shroud and its images were created. From a religious standpoint, in 1958 Pope Pius XII approved of the image in association with the Roman Catholic devotion to the Holy Face of Jesus, celebrated every year on Shrove Tuesday. Some believe the shroud is the cloth that covered Jesus when he was placed in his tomb and that his image was recorded on its fibers at or near the time of his resurrection. Skeptics, on the other hand, contend the shroud is a medieval forgery; others attribute the forming of the image to chemical reactions or other natural processes.

Re: Turin shroud - fake, or the real thing?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:30 pm
by IMPI
Fake or not it is an amazing piece
It has baffled believers and scientists for years now.
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Re: Turin shroud - fake, or the real thing?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:03 pm
by Chris
Where is the "It might be real" option.

I have my own opinions about it.And the tests they have done including the 3D image scan on the shroud is very interesting.

Re: Turin shroud - fake, or the real thing?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:09 pm
by Pine
Chris wrote:Where is the "It might be real" option.
added... :puterwork:

Re: Turin shroud - fake, or the real thing?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:38 am
by JohnHoffe
The way I understand it is the image could only have been imposed on the cloth through some form of radiation. Not quite possible a couple of hundred years ago.

Carbon dating (which we all understand can be flawed) dates it back only a couple of hundred years. :?:

Re: Turin shroud - fake, or the real thing?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:42 am
by Pine
According to the documentary, the false carbon dating reading could be attributed to carbon deposits on the shroud during a fire in the 14th century, which damaged it quite extensively.