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Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:20 am
by Matt
i envy the budget you guys get to work with. i think alot of us could only wish to have so much
bux to put into our cars.
so far the thread is kickass, love to know what times you get when you finally finished
good luck
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:30 am
by 4agedub
The best way to build a car like this is over time. Buy a couple of parts each month and keep them aside. (do not keep the invoices

those will make you go crazy)
It's actually not that expensive to build a car for historic racing. You can get away with a load of std items. All depending which class you wish to compete in. For class F you would be able to run a stockish 1641cc without problems. You just need handling
She ran a 1:18 at Zwartkops. I've never been to phakisa before so lets see what happens.
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:49 am
by dubster
could you maybe put that in relation with other cars....did sarel van der merwe race his galaxy?what times did he run if he did....and all those funny looking porche race cars and escorts and rotories....ive never been to zwartkops so i have no idea of the times cars run around there....
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:23 am
by Tony Z
Re the budgets... 4age is right, collect things slowly and put them aside.
For my engine, I spent 7 years collectng parts before I started assembly.
And as 4age said, dont keep the receipts. I have a special bin for my receipts... one day when I am feeling brave, I will take them out and add up the damage. If you have a budget, you will spend at least double that at the end of the day....
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:30 am
by Ron&Gill
Agreed. How much does it cost? Make a fair estimate, add 50%. Then double it to finish the job. That's excluding fire damage...
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:51 pm
by 4agedub
And of course don't tell your wife how much you spend. Also make sure that she does not get the slips.

Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:53 pm
by Blitzkrieg
*Dreams of a 2,1 Type 4-powered fasty in Gulf Colours racing in Historics*
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:24 pm
by 2BugMe
Hey guys,
At that rate ill be freaken 105 before i turn the key to my dream car...lol
Anyway, dude how come you run such high compression and how do you controle detonation or pre-ignition??
btw, who did those heads you used and as you dont have pics please describe a bit of what you did to keep them bullet proof??
Shot

Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:40 pm
by 4agedub
I'm running her on 95 octane fuel, max timing under full throttle 28' advance. No detonation.
Compression makes power, but also produces heat.
My dad built the heads ages ago, cant really remember the valve sizes. But they have got special valve guides that wont fall out. Also running doulble valve springs with cro moly retainers and collars.
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:44 pm
by 2BugMe
imported springs?? What make?? At what rpm should 1 consider dual springs??
Shot
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:47 pm
by 4agedub
Scat dual springs. I think anything from 6000rpm you need the double or high duty springs. Also if you are running big heavy valves then you do need them.
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:29 am
by 4agedub
We had some issues at the phakisa race. Stripped the engine and found this
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Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:33 am
by 4agedub
The cam follower broke... why I do not know yet. Maybe it was over revving. Went to 8000rpm once on a down shift.
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Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:09 pm
by calooker
What make of lifter?
Re: My ex type 1 turbo project (Changing to Historic Racer)
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:12 pm
by 4agedub
EMPI wide head