MY 1967 Notchback -

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Farhaad wrote:apart from your awesome project, there seem to be some other gems in the workshop as well, bay, 190 merc, porshe, 50's sedan etc :D
Well spotted Farhaad! The panel shop is known for good quality restorations. They specialise in Alfa's (dont mention that)

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retrovan wrote:See you have a set of "Coil overs" on the back shocks, may I ask if you bought them, and where, or where they on the car when you got it.

That there Notch is starting to look mighty fine..... :D

Herman
Thanks Herman! I got the coilies from Volkspares at R530 each. I hope that they will improve the handling of the notch!
1960 VW Karmann Ghia - Project http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=26973" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Looking goooood! Hopefully mine will one day get a makeover like this
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MrT wrote:
retrovan wrote:See you have a set of "Coil overs" on the back shocks, may I ask if you bought them, and where, or where they on the car when you got it.

That there Notch is starting to look mighty fine..... :D

Herman
Thanks Herman! I got the coilies from Volkspares at R530 each. I hope that they will improve the handling of the notch!
I am surprised that you opted for coil overs. You can stiffen the suspension by adjusting the torsion bars. To ensure the best handling out of your Type 3, you need to observe the maximum tyre pressures carefully. They are on a tag riveted to the bonnet slam plate. If you run your tyres at 180kPa, your handling will be terrible. When I got my Notch, I replace the shocks with new, standard and adjusted to the correct tyre pressures and she handled fabulously. Same with my Razor.

I have since messed with the Razor, different wheels and low profile tyres, and it made things worse.

Good looking car, love the paint job, good luck with the rest of it.
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Ron&Gill wrote:
I am surprised that you opted for coil overs. You can stiffen the suspension by adjusting the torsion bars. To ensure the best handling out of your Type 3, you need to observe the maximum tyre pressures carefully. They are on a tag riveted to the bonnet slam plate. If you run your tyres at 180kPa, your handling will be terrible. When I got my Notch, I replace the shocks with new, standard and adjusted to the correct tyre pressures and she handled fabulously. Same with my Razor.

I have since messed with the Razor, different wheels and low profile tyres, and it made things worse.

Good looking car, love the paint job, good luck with the rest of it.
My main consideration was the saggying rear end and the fact that I have changed the rims to 14" and will be fitting 195 70's.
1960 VW Karmann Ghia - Project http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=26973" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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MrT wrote:...
My main consideration was the saggying rear end and the fact that I have changed the rims to 14" and will be fitting 195 70's.
The Ass down, has always been a way of life for the type 3, I have a type 4 in the back which carrys near 50 Kg more then the type 3 motor, all I did was set the back up two splines, still has the ass down stance, but the ride is excelent.

Just beware that you do not over rev the engine with the 14 " wheels, you will overheat the type 3 motor with ease. :shock:

Reason I fitted the type 4 !(sucks more air, better fan). As you have a Notch, with boot vents, you will not have the problems that the Variant and Fastback have of the narrowing back body, which gives a negative air pressure over the fins, at high speed, always had :bn: with my fasty overheating, till I fitted a fin end scoop.
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Herman and Ron please help me here?

I was under the impression that the rear suspension could be only be adjusted on the square back model? Notch and fasty's has a different rear suspension?

Could one fit a square back rear suspension into a notch?

Regards

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MrT wrote:Herman and Ron please help me here?

I was under the impression that the rear suspension could be only be adjusted on the square back model? Notch and fasty's has a different rear suspension?

Could one fit a square back rear suspension into a notch?

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All The type 3's have the same pan and mechanicals.
The type 3 also have a lot in common with the 68 and up Beetle, as they used the Type 3 parts to update the Beetles.
So if you stuck with parts, and you cannot find type 3 parts, look to the 68 Beetle, and you may find a common part.
You can set the Back Suspension exactly the same as the beetle, should you want to do it, I can post an "More simpler" way of working out how much and which spline to do it with.
Its a lot of fun but can make you swear like a trooper as the knuckles and the mind takes a beating, if you follow the manuals system.

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retrovan wrote:
All The type 3's have the same pan and mechanicals.
The type 3 also have a lot in common with the 68 and up Beetle, as they used the Type 3 parts to update the Beetles.
So if you stuck with parts, and you cannot find type 3 parts, look to the 68 Beetle, and you may find a common part.
You can set the Back Suspension exactly the same as the beetle, should you want to do it, I can post an "More simpler" way of working out how much and which spline to do it with.
Its a lot of fun but can make you swear like a trooper as the knuckles and the mind takes a beating, if you follow the manuals system.

Herman
Thanks Herman, Please post the more simpler way, as it is my "accountant knuckles" are round! :lol:

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Type 3s changed as much as Beetles did through their manufacturing runs, but yes, all four Type 3's had the same mechanicals. One notable change was in 1968-1969 when the rear engine mount was replaced with a underslung engine bar similar to that found in baywindow buses. If your handling is particularly bad on your '67, it could be that mounting that is missing, broken off or worn out. The rear suspension on Type 3's is rubber mounted which is why it is such a fabulous ride.
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MrT wrote:........
Thanks Herman, Please post the more simpler way, as it is my "accountant knuckles" are round! :lol:
Nardus
Here you go , Hope it helps....... :D http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... =4&t=25638

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MrT wrote:Progress update - rear suspension fitted!
Suspension refitted completely, motor installed, side mouldings fitted!
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WOW, super progress on a very nice looking car.. :hangloose:
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This week's update. - The car will not be at CITP! So disappointed, hope to see lots of other aircooled machines on Sunday!
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well done, starting to get there. the finish takes the longest :roll:

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