Retrovan's Hahn SP - Project

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Re: Retrovan's Hahn SP - Project

Post by Tony Z »

Power output is going to be severely limited with a twinport manifold. You'll do a lot better if you can find a manifold for the DCD.

With a good exhaust and twin carbs, I'd guess that the engine would push around 80hp.
We aimed for an easy driver and torque, not aiming for big hp


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Yes you right Tony, but as I will be going to FI I am not prepared to blow R5000 on a manifold that will be stashed later.

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Have made a good adapter with smooth fuel vapor flow passage and I am sure I will get at least 95% flow from it which I can live with.

Size of tubes and flow not much different.

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As the heater tube was totally blocked on this manifold, I had to cut a section out of the pipe and using a extended drill bit, drilled it open again.

Then we welded back the section removed and cleaned it up a bit. this is part one of the heating of the manifold.

Once the motor is in, we will have to repair the bought GT2 exhaust as it has no holes in the heater takeoff's.

And on top of this, I will have to weld a pipe in to free-flow the one side, because at this time, it will not heat the manifold at all.

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So now we are ready to fit the Weber 36/36 DCD which we jetted to the best option for the aircooled 1776 cc motor.

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And we prepared the motor for the assembly process, and have it ready to start.

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Well we will do what we can in the next week so see you then.

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Get ready for a huge fuel bill and crap perfomance with that carb setup.
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@calooker

Thank you for your post Rui,

I respect your opinion but would need more info to support your statement.

My feeling is the same for this Weber as it is for all Weber carb's

Everybody on this forum told me to stay clear of the 34 ICT's as they are crap.

But I as many in the aircooled world that understands that a weber performance is purely due to two things,

One, the correct jets
Two, the correct installation and setting up of the carbs.

I have only had major praise for the weber 34 ICT and would buy any from the guys that want to get rid of them, no problem.

Can not see the 36 DCD being any different.

From a lot of world opinions, it was the go-to carb for Alfa. Audi, Golf, Passat, and a lot more

To the point of Fuel injection being taken off and replaced with an 36 DCD

Beside the normal Weber to do's, I would think that the heating of the manifold would play a very big part,

That is why I when through the effort of cleaning the heated tube and having to fix the bought exhaust to get max flow through the heating tube.

as you have a lot of fuel cooling and freezing on its way to the pistons. as well as having the right fuel mix when the 2nd choke opens.

Due to a major vacuum drop when the 2nd choke opens you could land up with over fueling due to lack of air.

Now we come to the reason why I got the 36DCD, well it was cheap, as the guy could not set it, and if need be I can disconnect the 2nd choke .

Then I will be having the same as a single choke weber. (ie 36 ICT)

3rd I can remove it and still fit my old carb on it without any hassles. Bolt off and bolt on.

Will keep you updated on this installation, I too am very eager to see the outcome

Feed back from anybody running a 36 DCD would be more then welcome..... Please

Thanks

Herman

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Re: Retrovan's Hahn SP - Project

Post by Haans »

Herman...the Dcd I put you on ?
Keep note of venturi, jetting and emultion tube data pls. Can come in handy in the future.

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Haans wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:42 pm .....Keep note of venturi, jetting and emultion tube data pls. ...
Regards Haans
Will do once the carb is running correct and the jets have been matched to the motor.

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Re: Retrovan's Hahn SP - Project

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Slowly busy with assembling the motor, no rush, as we are keeping the Hahn mobile as we have a few car shows coming up.

Have fitted the 36DCD to the manifold and also bought a pan air cleaner for the 36 DCD.

The brand new filler was delivered, and strait away we cut it up.

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Why you all ask, would you do a silly thing like that ?

Well as the DCD sits right up against the fan shroud, and can not fit.

So we cut the mounting section out the base, cut more base out so the mounting bit can be welded back thigh up against the edge.

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Fitted most of the tins and the J tubes, also the dizzy and the spark plugs and wires.

She is looking very , very nice

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You will see we do not have much space for the air-filter, will be close, here hoping it will fit under the hood ...

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Also tried to grease the front end but broke a nipple and found the others blocked,

so will have to get new nipples and a few tubes of grease to push out the old grease.

If the front end then will still not come back up, then we will have to fit coil-overs.

Also removed the steering wheel and centered if as it was off straight and very irritating while driving.

Bent out the foot peddles as they where to close together and we kept hitting the wrong peddle every now and then.

Will let you know how the greasing goes, and if it helped.

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1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
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