1900 waterpumper into a beetle and out again

Whatever you want to put in the back of your VW...
User avatar
RICKY-R69
Clutch
Posts: 658
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:56 pm
What model do you have?: 76 kombi,1970 beetle
Location: Mokopane-Limpopo
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 8 times

1900 waterpumper into a beetle and out again

Post by RICKY-R69 »

Hi guys

I want to pop a 1900 waterpumper into a beetle. What do I need to look out for :?:
Last edited by RICKY-R69 on Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Most men in their mid-life crisis buys Harleys. I build BEETLES!
User avatar
bugspray
Floorpan
Posts: 3468
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:18 pm
What model do you have?: 71 Westy + 74beetle
Facebook: http://m.facebook.com/profile.php?r0d306f00&refid=7
Location: Pretoria- beetle / Benoni - Bus
Has thanked: 24 times
Been thanked: 16 times
South Africa

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by bugspray »

The aircooled brigade :mrgreen:
Image
More than meets the eye!
Dawie
Fuel Injection
Posts: 2114
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:25 pm
What model do you have?: Aircooled, various
Location: Kaapstadt
Has thanked: 45 times
Been thanked: 208 times
South Africa

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by Dawie »

Look out for a flywheel and clutch from an 1800 or 1700 type 4 kombi engine. Wasserboxer 1900 and 2.1 engine bolts straight to gearbox, no adapter plate needed.
Staying Aircooled is so much nicer.
Do'nt assume anything- (While doing fault-finding).
Bugger
Advertiser
Advertiser
Posts: 7948
Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:25 pm
What model do you have?: a Few Models
Facebook: Pierre Bugger Eksteen
Location: Johannesbirg
Has thanked: 18 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by Bugger »

Give more deails of what you got and we can help then

Or give me a call 082 600 8663 Pierre Have done a few
Adapterplates Available for Rotary in Beetle and others aswell
And Special Boxes built for Rotary Conversions and Scubies
Pierre
082 600 8663

CLick on Banner Below to be routed to the Web site

Image
calooker
Donor
Donor
Posts: 4973
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:24 am
What model do you have?: 77 SP
Location: Johannesburg
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 98 times
Contact:
Portugal

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by calooker »

early 1900 WBX had a 215mm flywheel that will bolt into the beetle.
For what it's worth, ignorance has no limits ......
User avatar
RICKY-R69
Clutch
Posts: 658
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:56 pm
What model do you have?: 76 kombi,1970 beetle
Location: Mokopane-Limpopo
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by RICKY-R69 »

Hi there,so I finally got round to start my conversion but ran intoi trouble. Seems the flywheel clutch assembly I got is from a 2l type 4. Slines on the clutchplate align fine but after I bolted the engine to the beetle box,the engine do not turn at all. I measured the flywheel beforehand and it measured 228 mm.on the ringgear. Same as the beetle although the beetle has a mush smaller clutch and pressure plate. Now I have to take out the engine again. As this is my son's first car and he is very eager to drive it, I amn losing face in the eyes of my kid and that hurts like hell. Can anybody rescue me out of this situation? Please please pretty pllease!
Most men in their mid-life crisis buys Harleys. I build BEETLES!
User avatar
beetlefanatic
Donor
Donor
Posts: 3014
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:59 am
What model do you have?: Late Bay, Syncro x 2
Location: Pretoria
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 12 times

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by beetlefanatic »

Slack off the four bolts holding the engine to the gbox until you can turn the engine with a spanner on the crankpulley. It will leave some marks in the belhousing so that you can see where you need to clearance the bellhousing. It shouldn't much. I only had to take a little bit out. Good luck!
The only substitute for cubic inches are more cubic inches.
User avatar
RICKY-R69
Clutch
Posts: 658
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:56 pm
What model do you have?: 76 kombi,1970 beetle
Location: Mokopane-Limpopo
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by RICKY-R69 »

At last got it in and started.Now I need to fit the radiator and water pipes. Should be running very soon! :D
Most men in their mid-life crisis buys Harleys. I build BEETLES!
User avatar
dubster
Valve
Posts: 1145
Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:30 pm
What model do you have?: buggy and '74 beetle
Location: Amanzimtoti
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by dubster »

congrats ricky you sounded very down in the my ride thread...one problem....wheres the pics???
1974 1300tp type 1

kart kraft 1717cc buggy

''BLOOD AND TEARS WILL FLOW FOR ACVW'S,FOR LIFE''
User avatar
RICKY-R69
Clutch
Posts: 658
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:56 pm
What model do you have?: 76 kombi,1970 beetle
Location: Mokopane-Limpopo
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by RICKY-R69 »

Okay so the :bn: hit the fan again. Motor runs good when cold but after a 5km drive it starts overheating and smoking a lot. It also backfires through the carb and don't have power. I suspect worn rings. Could it be that it is running too lean as I removed the choke set-up on the carb completely.I am running it with the og pierreburg carb and don't see any mixture adjusting screws. Please help. :(
Most men in their mid-life crisis buys Harleys. I build BEETLES!
User avatar
Tony Z
Donor
Donor
Posts: 15009
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
Has thanked: 192 times
Been thanked: 488 times
South Africa

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by Tony Z »

where have you put the radiator?
Doesnt help having the radiator in the open air, it needs to be in a position where air can move through it. If air doesnt move through it, it wont cool, no matter how much in the open it is - hense why so many V6 conversions dont work in a kombi with the radiator bolted to the front......
User avatar
hitlers revenge
ACVWSA Junkie
Posts: 6486
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:38 pm
What model do you have?: buggy
Location: back in the 'Fell
Been thanked: 36 times
Great Britain

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by hitlers revenge »

Tony, explain please. The whole idea is to have air rushing through???????
Why do we celebrate the guy that invented the wheel??
Surely we must celebrate the guy tat invented the other three
User avatar
Tony Z
Donor
Donor
Posts: 15009
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
Has thanked: 192 times
Been thanked: 488 times
South Africa

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by Tony Z »

hitlers revenge wrote:The whole idea is to have air rushing through???????
Exactly. Just putting it in the air doesnt mean air will rush through it.
Look at all those people that have mounted radiators in the front of a kombi, 5cm from the body.
If you were an air molecule, why would you want to go through the radiator, then onto the body and then around the body, when you could avoid the radiator and just go around the body. Remember also, it is more difficult for air to go through a radiator than to go around it, so you have to make the air want to go through.

This is much easier to describe in person as I cant find pictures to demonstrate.... quizz me on it next time you see me
User avatar
hitlers revenge
ACVWSA Junkie
Posts: 6486
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:38 pm
What model do you have?: buggy
Location: back in the 'Fell
Been thanked: 36 times
Great Britain

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by hitlers revenge »

Tony Z wrote:Look at all those people that have mounted radiators in the front of a kombi, 5cm from the body.
OK I seem to understand as my radiator is futher away than 5 cm on the buggy.
Why do we celebrate the guy that invented the wheel??
Surely we must celebrate the guy tat invented the other three
User avatar
RICKY-R69
Clutch
Posts: 658
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:56 pm
What model do you have?: 76 kombi,1970 beetle
Location: Mokopane-Limpopo
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: 1900 waterpumper into a beetle

Post by RICKY-R69 »

I have installed the radiator in the sparewheel well. Cut the area behind it away (below the tank),and fitted a cooling fan from a mk1 golf. For air inlet I have cut a huge hole in the lower valance and the bonnet. So I realy think airflow through the radiator is not the problem. :twisted:
Most men in their mid-life crisis buys Harleys. I build BEETLES!
Post Reply