Wich camshafts are best

[jakkals]

building a 1600 tp normal aspirated type 1 motor and are looking at wich cams are beast for this aplication.
and where can i get my hands on one.
Please Please HELP !!!!
the motor is going into a Fat tale beach buggy so just a little extra HP.

[Ron&Gill]

building a 1600 tp normal aspirated type 1 motor and are looking at wich cams are beast for this aplication.
and where can i get my hands on one.
Please Please HELP !!!!
the motor is going into a Fat tale beach buggy so just a little extra HP.

I am a big fan of the Engle 110 for waking up a 1600 twin port, but keeping it nice and driveable in traffic and such conditions.

[IMPI]

Agreed but some port work would be great
Armand

[Ron&Gill]

My 1914 got the 110 with 041 heads. AFAIK The Darkside runs a 1914 with an Engle 110 but with standard single port heads (for now) and with pretty decent results. Vader should jump in here.

Of course heads and/or porting makes a big difference. Thing is, you can change that later at any opportunity or as budget allows. While a cam is more of an opportunistic modification... if you split the case, stick in the cam. From here on forward, if I ever split a case again, meaning in about 10 days time..., I'll stick a 110 in.

[jakkals]

Ok ok so say i can get my hands on a eagle cam what figers are i looking @? Power wise. Standard stroke & bore (thinking about just a little stroke.). Flowed &ported '64 /65 twinport heads if i can get my hands on them 2. (other wise ill just use the set ive got). ,raised cr butt nt to much.

[1964type1]

http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resou ... s/mods.htm

[Ron&Gill]

There are lots of engine mod threads on this forum too.

The only restriction is your budget.

The aircooled.net thread posted above is just for bolt on performance enhancers or maintenance period enhancers.

What I am saying is if you are splitting the crank, put in a Engle 110 (not Eagle, that's a bird) I say this because you're talking about a little bit of hp increase. The Engle 110 will give you a lot, relatively. Three and a half hp is a lot. It's 10%! But that's not the point.

You said a little stroking? It would be easier to do a little boring, but that's also neither here nor there.

What is very important, is to research properly and decide before you start buying and building, how much power you want and how you're going to get it. Otherwise it will just cost you shed-loads of dosh with marginal increases and you'll be dissatisfied all the way and have a garage full of discarded new stuff. I know, I've been there.

I ended up with what's in my beach buggy, the topic is in my signature. Putting that whole lot together was around 14k if memory serves.

[1964type1]

My link was a nudge to try other avenues before splitting an engine. A set of 34 webbers and new 1.4:1 ratio rockers coupled to a 4into1 exhaust system will wake up a stocker considerably. A 110 ENGLE will also wake up the engine but then you start looking at mild porting as well as single high rev springs to get the most out of it. Besides, only fitting a camhaft is pointless unless you put on a better carburettor combination IMO.

[Ron&Gill]

My link was a nudge to try other avenues before splitting an engine. A set of 34 webbers and new 1.4:1 ratio rockers coupled to a 4into1 exhaust system will wake up a stocker considerably. A 110 ENGLE will also wake up the engine but then you start looking at mild porting as well as single high rev springs to get the most out of it. Besides, only fitting a camhaft is pointless unless you put on a better carburettor combination IMO.

I know what you're saying, but the guy is asking after a camshaft. I make the point that IF he is splitting the case, he should consider putting in a camshaft. Running a standard 1600 twin port all standard but with an Engle 110 might be pointless, I really don't know, but it is fine until the bolt on's come as budget restraints allow. It is better than bolting everything on and then deciding at the end that you want a cam.

I ran a pair of 34mm ICHs with high ratio rockers into a 4 into 1 and it may have done something, but I musta missed it... My biggest bolt on benefit was 041 heads, a pair of 36mm IDFs and high ratio rockers. The biggest contribution came in with the heads because I had run 2 36s plus hi ratio rockers on standard heads and I musta missed that too . It was after I cracked the heads so I went for 041s.

And it was after I broke a crank seal and needed a new clutch etc, that I went to a 1914cc (max (safe) bore, std stroke) and the 110. Oh, and I needed the standard short block for another project.

I would actually advise going to the 1914cc short block for starters, plus the 110 cam. I think it's great, and I've heard lots of other folks say so too.

My buggy dyno'd 60kW and 189Nm as she is now. It's exciting to drive but also easy.

http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... =6&t=12779

[jakkals]

Thanks for the info guys.
you see splitting the case is not a prop as i got two cases that is already split (got them from a frend striped) so it wont be a bigy as I have to get them line bored any way.
Got one complete and the other one is missing sleaves and pistons,
you guys talked about boreing the sleaves out , but what is the most relyable bore size that i can bore the sandard sleaves to???
and were can i get my hands on a camshaft???. and can any body give me some more info on the engle 11o camshafts ie : duration and lift

Another q is: is it better to run a 4-1 or a nice set of "trumpets"

[Ron&Gill]

Google Engle 110 for duration and opening etc. That W100 is very similar to the Engle 110.

You don't bore the sleeves, you have the casings machined for the large 94mm sleeves. You buy it as a kit, pistons, sleeves.

Rui or Dave or Volkspares, anyone can get you a camshaft and the big bore kit.

4-1 gives better performance than trumpets. But trumpets look cool.

Spend some time researching this stuff, the detail is important and it's all out there on the web. Just don't embark on your rebuild or shopping spree before you know exactly what you want.

[1964type1]

Thanks for the info guys.
you see splitting the case is not a prop as i got two cases that is already split (got them from a frend striped) so it wont be a bigy as I have to get them line bored any way.
Got one complete and the other one is missing sleaves and pistons,
you guys talked about boreing the sleaves out , but what is the most relyable bore size that i can bore the sandard sleaves to???
and were can i get my hands on a camshaft???. and can any body give me some more info on the engle 11o camshafts ie : duration and lift

Another q is: is it better to run a 4-1 or a nice set of "trumpets"

I would highly recommend buying a book called "How To Hotrod Aircooled VW Engines" by Bill Fischer, it gives you a great platform of understanding from which to work from.

The best thing to do is to read, read, read and eventually you will start to understand the finer details that will allow you to build the perfect engine for you. You might find the Engle 110 is too mild especially since the engine is not going into a heavy vehicle. You will gain the most horsepower from a balanced head/ cam/ carb combo. As the heads are where the power lies you would do well to read up on what is available on the market. Have a look on http://www.cbperformance.com or http://www.drdracingheads.com to get an idea of the offerings available out there.

[Edmond]

Im running a Engle W100 cam in my mild 1600 motor im busy building up but im using 2 solex type 4 carbs and a fully strengthened valvetrain(hd single springs,bolt together rocker shafts etc), the W100 is a more torque orientated cam but I will be running mildly ported twin port heads

I read that the W100 cam is suited to twin single barrel carbs(solex,kadron) and the W110 is more suited to dual twin barrel carbs(weber idf or dell downdraughts)

All the different cams and their specs are here
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6530

[jakkals]

Thanks guys wil def try to get my oilly little paws on that book. In the mean time ill be crusing around wit the standard 1600 ;-( wich is actualy not to bad. It stil does 70mph easy and tops out @ around 90mph. On my way to work every day. Say any 1 may b knows were i can get a soft top 4 it? Mine were in a acidend with the dog a wile back. (the winds killin me in the morning )