CORRECT Electric Fuel Pump for Aircooled motors

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CORRECT Electric Fuel Pump for Aircooled motors

Post by retrovan »

As this keeps coming up, I have copy /pasted this info for everybodys easy find in future

The Facet is too high a pressure for your carbs.

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The correct pump for your carbs is;-
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Huco low pressure 12v fuel pump 133010
Description

12 V Positive or negative earth fuel pump made in Germany.
Supplied with Unions & Mounting Bracket.
Suitable for use in standard road, Fast Road, Rally and Race cars with engines producing up to approx. 160 BHP.

Specification:-
Pressure 2.1 PSI
Flow 27.5 Gallons per Hour (125 Litres per Hour)
Union fuel pipe size 5/16 inch / 8mm
This pump is a suction type and designed to be fitted in the engine bay of the vehicle.
This pump is ideal for use with Dellorto or Weber carburettors, the low pressure eliminates the need for a pressure regulator.
Manufacturers part number 133010

Where can you get it ;--

No the local agent tries to sell you the 4 PSI pump under the explanation that that is the only low pressure pump HUCO make but thats Bull :bn:

You can import it from;-
https://www.dellorto.co.uk/shop/car-acc ... mp-133010/

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Re: CORRECT Electric Fuel Pump for Aircooled motors

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I import, use and sell the rotary fuel pump that CB Performance sells.
3psi and perfect for Weber carbs, also good to around 160hp.
Price before the Rand fell thru the floor with corona was R1800
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Ah Herman, I see you answered the question I asked on another thread here.
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73type2 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:39 pm Ah Herman, I see you answered the question I asked on another thread here.
Just to expand here on your question;-..

Yes as the silly local agent has no clue that the low pressure pump (133010) is available or he is just not interested to bring them in.

Even after giving him the number and telling him I have imported 4 so far, he was adamant they do not exist.

Me think he has large stock of the big one, and wants to sell them out.

You see they all look the same and only the number tells you what the output is.

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Re: CORRECT Electric Fuel Pump for Aircooled motors

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Boet,...as a matter of interest Who are the agents ?

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Haans wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:43 am Boet,...as a matter of interest Who are the agents ?

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If my memory serves me right, they in a small side street in Johannesburg.

This was 5 or 6 years ago.

Still Google Maps them but for the life of me can not remember the company name.

Spoke to the guy on the phone but was not impressed with him at that time.

Tried to Google them again, and I think I found them, at 97 Dam Rd. Bokburg Google lists the number as 011 894 8125

Sorry.

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Maybe you're talking about the guys that bring in V8 parts? I got a low pressure range HUCO fuel pressure regulator by a V8 shop here in Cape Town.
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73type2 wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:24 pm Maybe you're talking about the guys that bring in V8 parts? I got a low pressure range HUCO fuel pressure regulator by a V8 shop here in Cape Town.
Whats its number ??

133010 = 2.5 PSI max.
133000 = 4.3 psi max
144010 = 8 psi max.

Then there are a few in between and higher. so the number is important.

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Not a pump. I got a fuel pressure regulator.
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Re: CORRECT Electric Fuel Pump for Aircooled motors

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Hi all,......my pump has eeeventually arrived,...will pick it up thisafternoon!!!
Now,..some concerns about fitment ?

Suction pump?,.......therefore fitting in the back closest to engine is apppropriate ?

Fuel filter? .......Normal "inline" filter BEFORE pump ?,....as well as if I decide to fit the type with glaas bowl with wet paperfilter,.....are these paper filters easily available ?,.......midas?

Relay?,....this is where it gets foggy !??
I am "uneasy" with fitting an electric pump straight in with "ignition" supply,....so? I thought I was brilliant to try and connect itso that(heaven forbid), the engine stalls and I am "incapacitated" to switch off the ignition to prevent further fuel movement!
Therefore the idea came up to somehow use ithe oil pressure indicator line ,.....the assumption is that when the oil light comes on,..the engine is not running therefore not requiring more fuel......but some or other "override" switch to start the engine.
This is where I loose the plot,..just as I think I got it!!
The electric "friend",...talks about a "normally closed" relay to be connected to the oil light circuit with an "override"
Then....I saw the attached,...and diodes mess with my mind ??
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now this 2nd pic looks like a proposition,..but this switch is confusing ?

Has anybody got a plan for me ?

Advice will be greatly appreciated

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The problem with most aircooled cars are that the tank sits higher then the motor spark plugs, so even if you stop the pump, gravity will still freeflow the fuel through the pump.

So to be save use this rely system or go via the driver door switch (for the interior Light) to switch off the pump as well as the shutoff valve you can get from most car alarm shops.

This will stop fuel for sure as you get out the car.

To fit the whole lot, go with tank - filter - pump - shut off valve - carb.

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I've got a very brief description on how to wire in the pump on my page
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NC relay with coil wired to oil pressure light.
Switch wired to fuel pump
Oil light comes on, switch opens, pump stops
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So it wouldn't be possible to prime your carb before starting?
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you can always fit a momentary on/off switch that allows the pump to run while you hold down the button
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Re: CORRECT Electric Fuel Pump for Aircooled motors

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Thanks for everybody's input,...........but I am not closer to an answer that makes me sleep better.

Tony,....NC relay coil connected to Oil light ?...........sort of get it. --) relay passing "live" feed through 30 to 87 to pump running. Oil light comes on circuit.......coil kicks in and pump stops.....????

"Switch wired to fuel pump" ???.........don't get this one ?

You guys have done this inyour sleep a thousand times,......so please be patient and very clear.

Regards Haans
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